Here you have falsified Hilary; for you have set vero sub mysterio for vere sub mys- Thus far ἐπ δὰ. »… their talk terio, we receive truly under a mystery.” Hilary thrice reporteth vere sub mysterio, English. and you interpret it twice vere sub mysterio, but the third time you have vero for vere. seeingMaster Cranmer:—Assuredly I am not guilty of any deceit herein. It may be that the mee ^ vene copy which I followed had sub vero mysterio, i.e. under a true mystery;” although and put they touching the sense it differeth little. God I call to witness, I have alway hated bes] falsifying; and if you had leisure and lust to hear false citations, I could recite unto irt ater you six hundred. 1o find a knot
[[? A direction to the notaries.] perversitas est. Qua scripta sunt legamus, et [? Si vere igitur carnem corporis nostri Christus qua legerimus intelligamus, et tunc perfecte fidei]
[assumpsit, et vere homo ille qui ex Mariá natus officio fungemur. De naturali enim in nobis Christi]
[fuit Christus est, nosque vere sub mysterio carnem veritate qua dicimus, nisi ab eo discimus, stulte]
[corporis sui sumimus, et per hoc unum erimus, atque impie dicimus. Ipse enim ait: Caro mea]
[quia Pater in eo est, et ille in nobis; quomodo vere est esca, et sanguis meus vere est potus. Qui]
[voluntatis unitas asseritur, cum naturalis per sacra- edit carnem meam, et bibit sanguinem meum, in]
[mentum proprietas perfect sacramentum sit uni- me manet et ego in eo.” De veritate carnis et]
[tatis? Non est humano aut seculi sensu in Dei sanguinis non relictus est ambigendi locus; nunc]
[rebus loquendum, neque per violentam atque im- enim et ipsius Domini professione et fide nostra]
[pudentem praedicationem celestium dictorum sani- vere caro est, et vere sanguis est.—Hilar, de Tri-]
[tati aliene atque impie intelligentiz extorquenda nitate, Lib. viii. pp. 133, 34.]]
Weston:—Here shall be shewed you two copies of Hilary, the one printed at Basil, the other at Paris. Wei
Cranmer:—l suppose that Doctor Smith’s books hath vero. fw
Weston:—Here is Doctor Smith; let him answer for himself. E.
M. Smith, M. Doctor, what say you for yourself? Speak, if you know it. m
Here Doctor Smith, either for the truth in his book alleged, or else astonied with Doctor Weston’s hasty calling, staid to answer: for he only put off his cap, and kept silence.
Weston:—But your own book, printed by Wolfe your own printer, hath vere’. ——
Cranmer:—That book is taken from me, which easily might have ended this controversy. I am sure the book of Decrees hath vero.
Cole:—Now you admit the book of Decrees, when it maketh for you.
Cranmer:—Touching the sense of the matter there is little difference. The change
Weston:—No is? Pastor, as you know, signifieth a bishop,” and pistor sigof one letter for another is but a small matter. nifieth a “baker.” But pastor shall be pistor, a bishop shall be a baker, by this your change of one letter, if vere and wero do nothing change the sense.
Cranmer:—Let it be so, that in pistor and pastor one letter maketh some difference; yet let pistor be either a baker or maker of bread, ye see here the change of a letter, and yet no great difference to be in the sense?
Yong:—This disputation is taken in hand, that the truth might appear. 1 perceive that I must go another way to work than I had thought. It is a common - in-..:. a A.; saying, Against him that denieth principles we must not dispute. “Therefore, that we may agree of the principles, I demand, whether there be any other body of Christ than — his instrumental body?;
Cranmer:—There is no natural body of Christ but his organical body. Yong:—Again I demand, whether sense and reason ought to give place to faith?
Cranmer:—They ought. ’
Yong:—Thirdly, whether Christ be true in all his words?
Cranmer:—Y ea, he is most true, and truth itself.
Yong:—Fourthly, whether Christ at his supper minded to do that which he spake, or no?
Cranmer:—JDicendo dizit, non fecit. dicendo; sed fecit discipulis sacramentum; i.e. — In saying he spake, but in saying he made not; but made the sacrament to his disciples. — Yong:—Answer according to the truth. Whether did Christ that, as God and man, which he spake, when he said, “This is my body”?
Cranmer:—This is a sophistical cavillation. Go plainly to work. There is some deceit in these questions. You seek subtleness. Leave your crafty fetches.;
Yong:—l demand, whether Christ by these words wrought any thing or no?
Cranmer:—He did institute the sacrament.
Yong:—But answer, whether did he work any thing? A Cranmer:—He did work in instituting the sacrament.
Yong:—Now I have you; for before you said it was a figurative speech: c
But a figure worketh nothing: Ergo, lt is not a figurative speech. A liar ought to have a good memory.